September 16, 2005

Myghty needs some myghty good docs

Maybe it’s because I’ve never used Mason, but I’m having a hard time fig­ur­ing out how to get started with Myghty.

At the moment I’m just trying to play around with it and get a feel for how you use it but I have to say that Django and Rails have set the bar high for the “tell me how to dive in” user.

I under­stand that you can struc­ture your Myghty app in just about any way imag­in­able, and I appre­ci­ate that kind of flex­i­bil­ity, but it would be nice if there was some­thing sim­i­lar to the 10-minute Rails video, or the Django tutorial.

I’ve tried Googling and the best I can come up with is that you prob­a­bly want to use Myghty with SQLOb­ject and For­men­code.

But how, and what is the best way, to com­bine those three packages?

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  • http://blog.ianbicking.org Ian Bicking

    Ben Bangert is doing some work (sim­i­lar in spirit to Tur­bo­Gears) to pro­vide a more inte­grated expe­ri­ence, at http://​pylons.​groovie.org/ — it’s at a pretty early stage (I don’t think he’s announced it or any­thing), but some­thing to keep an eye out for.

  • Chris

    Ian,

    Thanks for the pointer, it does look like a Django or Tur­bo­Gears style project Ben is work­ing on.

    I guess my com­plaint about Myghty is that it’s tough to find that “where do I start” point.

    I’ve since read the Mason book online, and I’ve got a better idea about the whole Myghty/Mason setup.

  • http://www.groovie.org/ Ben Bangert

    Shh, Pylons totally isn’t ready for actual use… sort of. Cur­rently its noth­ing more than a basic inte­gra­tion of my Routes (http://​routes.​groovie.org/) project with Myghty. What’s there so far will be merged into Myghty itself. I plan on adding a lot more inte­gra­tion with SQLOb­ject and For­mEn­code to Pylons.

    I’ve found the Myghty doc­u­men­ta­tion to be excel­lent, but you’re right that it has no “getting started” point. Cou­pled with the fact that Myghty allows you to use a MVC style par­a­digm, and its even more con­fus­ing where to start. Page-​driven? Con­troller dis­path? The flex­i­bil­ity pro­vides a lot of choices with no clear answer.

    Part of my inten­tion with Pylons was to make some choices to pro­vide a usable start­ing point. I’m work­ing on pack­ag­ing some webapp direc­tory tem­plates with Myghty to pro­vide one or two start­ing points to alle­vi­ate the ‘what next?’ con­fu­sion I’ve seen occur with Myghty.

    If you’re feel­ing adven­tur­ous, give Pylons a try. As I men­tioned, its noth­ing more at this point than Myghty + Routes (Works just like Rails Routes). If you follow the instruc­tions on the site, you should be left with a run­ning webapp that gives you some direc­tions on what to do next. Let me know how that works out (or doesn’t) for you. :)